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If a mom was pushing in side lying position on the right, and then pushed for nearly an equal time in the left, but baby was born when she was on her left side, do you think they would be nearly equally splayed? Or would there still be a noticeably greater splay on the right (because she was laying on her left)?
It all depends on what pressures the baby put on the bones. Evaluating the bones is the best way to know what impact the birth had on the bones. Typically its the position when the baby came out that matters the most but even c/s births create pelvic patterns and the baby didn’t come out that way.
It can be dysfunctional causing pelvic pain in pregnancy if the bones are in an unstable position which the open birthing pattern is. This is usually from a previous birth so only in subsequent pregnancies.
YES!!! I’m so glad you are seeing it cause it is in everyone who has birthed! Hope you’ve checked out the sacral flexion pattern as that one is in most people who’ve birthed vaginally but it’s much easier to miss in most people unless you are looking for it! I look forward to meeting you at a live course soon! Thanks for taking this course!
Hi, I was just re-watching these lessons. I assessed a 16 wks pregnant woman that had 2 previous C-sections, one 11 yrs ago and her last one was a year ago. I registered for the holistic treatment of the postpartum body, and have not gotten into the protocol lessons. But I was wondering if the that protocol would be appropriate for her, given that she is pregnant and preparing for a VBAC or if it’s not indicated.
Rosalind, the protocol is not appropriate for pregnancy but you can do the scar tissue massage work on her pregnant belly. Make sure baby is in a good position for birth is also important. Good luck!
Do you typically assess the bones, and do the intra-pelvic assessment all prior to treating the bones? So essentially completing external and internal assessment and then completing external and then internal treatment? Just curious about how this one appointment flows in the treatment room.
I always work externally first. If when I go internally and I find a sign, like sacral flexion that I forgot to address externally, I will come out work externally on the bone and then go back in. If I can address the bones while doing internal work I will if possible. Remember the muscles give you the clues as to what is happening with the bones most of the time. That’s why it’s important to address the bones first, then if the muscles reveal a pattern you didn’t address you can either try to address it while internally or go external and treat it then go back internal again. Hope this makes sense!
If a mom was pushing in side lying position on the right, and then pushed for nearly an equal time in the left, but baby was born when she was on her left side, do you think they would be nearly equally splayed? Or would there still be a noticeably greater splay on the right (because she was laying on her left)?
It all depends on what pressures the baby put on the bones. Evaluating the bones is the best way to know what impact the birth had on the bones. Typically its the position when the baby came out that matters the most but even c/s births create pelvic patterns and the baby didn’t come out that way.
I learned a lot from this thank you
I have a client with so many of the symptoms you have so far covered: I can’t wait to treat.
So glad you are taking this Maria! Keep learning!
Is the common open birth pattern considered dysfunctional during pregnancy if the pelvis is adjusting to the baby’s position or only after delivery?
It can be dysfunctional causing pelvic pain in pregnancy if the bones are in an unstable position which the open birthing pattern is. This is usually from a previous birth so only in subsequent pregnancies.
It’s been amazing to see the open birthing pattern in the clinic!
YES!!! I’m so glad you are seeing it cause it is in everyone who has birthed! Hope you’ve checked out the sacral flexion pattern as that one is in most people who’ve birthed vaginally but it’s much easier to miss in most people unless you are looking for it! I look forward to meeting you at a live course soon! Thanks for taking this course!
Hi, I was just re-watching these lessons. I assessed a 16 wks pregnant woman that had 2 previous C-sections, one 11 yrs ago and her last one was a year ago. I registered for the holistic treatment of the postpartum body, and have not gotten into the protocol lessons. But I was wondering if the that protocol would be appropriate for her, given that she is pregnant and preparing for a VBAC or if it’s not indicated.
Rosalind, the protocol is not appropriate for pregnancy but you can do the scar tissue massage work on her pregnant belly. Make sure baby is in a good position for birth is also important. Good luck!
Do you typically assess the bones, and do the intra-pelvic assessment all prior to treating the bones? So essentially completing external and internal assessment and then completing external and then internal treatment? Just curious about how this one appointment flows in the treatment room.
I always work externally first. If when I go internally and I find a sign, like sacral flexion that I forgot to address externally, I will come out work externally on the bone and then go back in. If I can address the bones while doing internal work I will if possible. Remember the muscles give you the clues as to what is happening with the bones most of the time. That’s why it’s important to address the bones first, then if the muscles reveal a pattern you didn’t address you can either try to address it while internally or go external and treat it then go back internal again. Hope this makes sense!